Friday, April 14, 2006

Perplexed

I was over at Sar's blog leaving a comment and got inspired to post a question that I've always wondered. Why do people name their children a name, only to call them something different? Examples: Michael = Mike, Andrew = Andy, Jennifer = Jenn, etc. Why not just name your child the name you'll be calling them? I've never really understood this.

This is why when I was pregnant with Ethan, I was determined that I would NOT name him something that could be shortened. Ok, so Ethan can be shortened to E or Eth, but that's not really something he would go by. I loved the names Zachary and Christian, but I didn't want him to be called Zack or Chris. So I heard the name Ethan and fell in love with it. Not only do I think it's a really cool name, but it fits him well.

Since I'm asking questions that perplex me, I also want to know why some gay men act more feminine than any woman I've ever met? I've met a few gay men who have no visual or audible feminine tendencies what so ever, but I've met more who are outrageously flamboyant. It's like a girlie-girl times 100. Also, why do some lesbians act and dress like men? I don't understand this and would really like to. Now, I'm not gay bashing so please don't be taking anything I've said out of context. I would just like a better understanding, that's all.

Today is Good Friday, but to me EVERY Friday is GOOD. Today is nothing special. Except for the fact that the traffic was almost non-existent on my morning commute. Gotta love Spring Break.

Y'all have a Happy Easter and be sure to get your jonx on!

Deep Throat of the Day: Nicole just pointed out that the titles of my last 2 posts were "The Land of the Free" and "Can't Go Anywhere." I didn't do that intentionally, but it's quite funny if I do say so myself. Thanks, Nicole for noticing that. YOU ROCK!!

27 comments:

Macca said...

Your son could be called "Than". I've heard that before. It's good because it's a nice one-syllable sound.

Logo™ said...

My name, my real name, is impossible to shorten, and as a kid I didn't like that. Everyone else could be Michelle, Shelly, Chele, Mitch, etc. People always had to use my full name. So both my kids have names they can shorten. We use the full length and the shorter versions interchangeably but if they decide they prefer one over the other we will call them that. Interesting to find someone who named their kids with the other point of view in mind, fun topic!

nicole said...

Man, I get a shout out for commenting on your post later than everyone else??? No April, YOU rock!!!!! ;)

Always glad to contribute to the Captain & Coke cause!

Johnny said...

another question... why cant a super girly girly man and a super diesel butch lesbian exist in a happy marriage? :P

Bill said...

That random name generator was a hoot... wong hung lo...

Jeannie said...

Some people name their kids wrong. And so other people, knowing better after time, rename them. So some get shortened and some get an entirely new name.

Alicat said...

My mom had this thing where she refused to name me a name that could be shortened to a guys name. Ok, this is a bit strange. She wanted to name me Samantha but decided not to because it could be shortened to Sam which is a guy's name. So they picked Alison. I have always been called Al. Good call mom, lol!

Randi said...

My uncle is a pretty undercover gay man. The only way you know is if he starts talking fashion or decorating. He talks MAD shit about the girly boys. And the hard core lezzzzzbians. We are all perplexed.

Mike said...

My 'official' name is Michael and thats what my mom calls me, but my Dad and pretty much everyone else I know calls me Mike. I prefer Mike, so thats what I usually go with when I introduce myself.

Grant said...

I always liked the names Rebecca and Elizabeth, but not any of the shortened variations. I go by Grant just because I don't like Granville, or my middle name.

I think the gay men thing is just a behaviour they affect. A friend told me about a coworker who was gay, then got religious and immediately dropped the lisp and the feminine mannerisms. The guy quit and moved on, but my friend ran into him again in a store sometime later. He had dropped the religion thing and once again acted very gay.

Coley said...

I always appreciated having some flexibility with my name. It kind of allowed me to choose the version that I liked best.

As for the gay folks question: Some people are just identifying in the way they are expected to. It also has a lot to do with personal preference. I'm kind of a masculine woman, but I'm pretty much straight. My sister's gay, and way more femme than I'll ever be. Gay men are allowed more flexibility in gender roles, so some exercise that.
So, yeah, that was a lot longer than I thought it would be. Sorry about that....

~*~ D ~*~ said...

I agree- every Friday is a good one!

As for the kids names, I did that too... Anthony is Tony, and so forth...I never really thought about it before, but I had to laugh when you said that...

Itchy said...

I don't understand the William to Bill thing. But that's just me.

And people have tried to call me by a variation of my middle name...a "cutsey" nickname type thing that I cannot tolerate. Ever. Grrrr.

Itchy said...

Shit...by my middle name...I actual mean my real name. My middle name is short enough!

april said...

Macca-No, my son could not be called that, it's silly. He's ETHAN!!

Logo-It's really cool to hear the other opinions. I was called Ape only by 2 people, and I HATED IT!! So, I'm not a fan. But I can see where you're coming from. You mean logo isn't your real name? hee hee.

Nicole-Well we're just some rockin' bitches!!!

Johnny-Because there's no such thing as a happy marriage.

Bill-So should I start calling you Mr. Hung?

Jeannie-That could be why my husband was born Lloyd and called Sammy. Go figure.

Alicat-My parents wanted to name me Love. LOVE for christs sake!! And they weren't even hippies.

Randi-Perplexed it is!!

Mike-Why do moms always use the long name? I don't get it. Wait, I am a mom and I don't use the long names unless that's what the person wants. Ok, why is it that older moms do that?

Grant-Granville? You're kidding, right?

Coley-Don't be sorry!! I love long comments. Especially when the mean something, like yours.

Di-I know a lot of people who did this and I'm not knocking anyone for it, I just don't know why they didn't name the kid the shorter name. I LOOOOVE the name Tony, by the way. My first boyfriend EVER was named that. =)

Itchy-I don't understand it either. Or Dick from Richard, Jimmy from James, Bob from Robert, Peggy from Margaret, I could go on. I like your real name.

NWJR said...

You're supposed to give your child a name that ends in a vowel, so that when you call their name, it lingers. That's why "Margaret" gets shortened to "Maggie". You can only yell "Maaarrrgareeeet" before too long--eventually you have to pronounce the "T".

But you can make "Magieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" go on for practically forever.

:-)

fyrchk said...

I see that you used Jonx and homage was not paid.

As far as names go...I didn't even know my real name until I was in kindergarten. I gave my report card back to the teacher saying, "This isn't my name." Who knew?

Sassy One said...

No one bothers to try and shorten my name...and I don't mind...although I have one friend who drags the last vowel out for a bit!
OOH! and I say 2 very butchy lesbians today, lovely leather vests and fannypacks I may add.

D.T. said...

Oooooh. I like Johnny's question too. You figure with a strap-on, a butch lesbian and girly gay man would have fun, you know? But I guess that would be like a straight guy hooking up with a transexual man after his operation. Hmmmm.

Kira said...

Well, my mom thought I was a lesbian for a while when I was in high school and didn't seem to be interested in the local guys (if you saw 'em, you'd understand), and I dressed like a man. I hated dresses/skirts and loved my sneakers, tshirts, and jeans. I never wore makeup. I hated clothes shopping and only could be convinced to go if I had a book given to me as bribery. I think several folks assumed I was a lesbian. Oh well. For some reason, as I became older, I began dressing in a more feminine fashion and caring more about my apppearance. Nobody assumes I am a lesbian now. I guess my idea on why gay men or lesbian women dress one way or the other is that heteros have unusual dressing methods as well sometimes depending on temperment. To each their own.

Jared has a name he can't abbreviate. Ariana can be abbreviated to Ari, and we do that sometimes. She seems to think it's fine for family to call her Ari, but she seems to prefer for strangers and not so close friends to call her Ariana. I never gave a thought to nicknames or whether or not it would be good to have a longer or shorter name. I figured that if somebody WANTED to shorten it, they can. My name can be shortened to Kir. Yeah, sounds totally stupid, right? Doesn't stop people from occasionally doing it.

My mom used to always say our full names, first middle last, whenever we were in BIG!!! trouble. I will hang my head in shame now as I realize I now do the same thing to my kids...

Ron said...

You know April, I wish I had an answer for the gay question. I have know way too many people that were one way then they came out and they went way over to the other extreme. I agree with Coley that maybe some of them are living up to some sort of weird expectation.

Most of my friends seem to be of the "regular guys who just happen to like dick" category. But you have to admit, having a few queeny guys around is always fun.

schmims said...

If I ever have kids, after having a name that has been on the top ten most popular baby names for nearly a decade now, I am naming my kids a name that no other kid will have. Seriously, I never respond to my name in public because I hear it all the time and IT IS NEVER FOR ME!

april said...

NWJR: I never really thought of it that way. I'll try to remember that for my next life when I have children.

Fyr: I've got your homage right here!!

Sassyone: Why do people still wear fanny packs?? Horrible, I say.

D.T.: I've never really thought about it that indepth.......

Kira: A lesbian?? If they only knew......... Yes, Kir does sound a little silly, just like Ape does. And I can't STAND being called Ape. Grrrrr....

Ron: I LOVE me some queeny guys. They're always so fun. I just never understood why some of them have to act more feminine than any woman I know.

Schmims: You'll be naming your kids those crazy celebrity baby names like Apple.....

Lisa said...

I am so guilty of the name thing! I call my son Zack instead of Zackary! But then again I also spell it differenlty. I hated the spelling with an H...Zachary??

Mojotek said...

My brother's given name is 'Zachary' too... but he's NEVER gone by anything other than 'Zac'. I'm actually pretty sure my mom wanted him to go by the full name though... But I guess I'm glad my name can't really be shortened either, except if you call me 'X', which is actually kinda cool too.

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